Would be nice have a watch in sansar time as in sl client, sometimes is difficult make calculations if you are from other countries. Oh maybe this already exist and i don't know, if exist i don't see :)
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Torley - Sansar Hey Livio!
Can you please tell us more about what you're trying to do? Right now, Sansar events ( http://events.sansar.com ) are shown in your LOCAL time both on the web and in Sansar, depending on your computer's clock.
How would a built-in Sansar clock differ from the clock on your Windows taskbar?
Please explain more and we can help better. :)
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Galen There has been quite a bit of discussion in the past about whether we should be coordinating using a single time zone like SL does or to rely on people's local times. I am very strongly in favor of a coordinated time zone (probably PST).
To me it is next to ridiculous to try to talk in person with people about what time we're going to do something if I don't pick one time zone everyone can relate to. Try to imagine if I told someone I'd meet them at 6pm and expected them to know I'm in the central time zone and then to find a time converter website to figure out what time it is in their own time zone. I realize the event calendar can solve this problem for that one specific use case, but I honestly see that as making things worse for every other use case.
Here is one past discussion of this topic.
https://help.sansar.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360000661166
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Galen By the way, this is why I show a clock in HoverDerby. It is Pacific time, even though it would have been easier for me to show you your own local time. The reason is that we have to communicate via many different means (e.g., Slack and Discord) to many different people when HoverDerby stuff happens. When I say in plain text "9am", those chat programs will not automatically convert that piece of text into each reader's own local time.
IMO, the only rational way to deal with a global population of Sansarians is to have one understood time zone as a standard. I don't care which one it is, frankly.
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Galen If it's not obvious, the reason for showing a clock in the client is because it gives the user the current system standard time at a glance. From which they can quickly compute an offset for communicating with other people. "Er, right now it's 3 hours behind my time zone, so I need to subtract 3 hours when I tell people what time X is going to occur." Right now people have to guess or go elsewhere to look up the current PST time.
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Livio Korobase Torley, in client no... and if i am around in sansar i look events on client, not on web
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Livio Korobase or maybe yes, but is not stated...
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Torley - Sansar @Galen Thanks for explaining more, I recall these previous conversations and I'll add that feedback to our internal discussion about this.
@Livio Please clarify what you mean by "in client no"? Still unsure what purpose you have in mind for a clock.
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Livio Korobase in anycase, a common watch is necessary, as Galen already explained.
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Livio Korobase in client i have just the events, but if i am talking with Galen and i tell see you at 13, what 13 is?
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Livio Korobase from discussion:
I honestly would love to see both posted .. like this
9:00 SLT (7:00CT) where the time in brackets is your local time.
I know for some doing the conversion is confusing to them, so any means of lessening confusion is worthwhile.
but in client also, not just for events. i hope is more clear.
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Galen May I suggest that there would be a benefit to having a toolbar on top (or bottom)? I realize the current design is oriented around a full-screen model, but I honestly would rather see the right-side toolbar condensed into a simple opaque (black?) toolbar on top with those same buttons and eventually menus, along with useful status indicators related to audio, time, money, etc.
You guys have made it clear that you want to pack just about everything into the client. This is going to necessitate something that just won't fit the current paradigm of a handful of floating translucent icons. And those icons already interfere with film making and live streaming.
Just a thought.
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Gindipple What time is it? It's whatever time it is in your timezone. Computers are great at handling simple tasks like time conversions. If you tell people meet at my house at 3pm EST they need to convert it. But if you're on a computer and you tell the computer 3pm EST, then every person in every time zone can get the time in THEIR timezone.
This is why the clock on your desktop is that way. It shouldn't be set to something like the time at Microsoft headqaurters....
And they went one step further and gave you a 2nd settable clock even!
https://gyazo.com/dca9e8157f49071e22be5c85c6a5ef42 -
Richardus Raymaker General gindipple failure (amiga red border)
So, let's say i see you tomorrow at 9am nah let's do it better 21:00 hours. not that stupid AM/PM system.
Good luck with guessing in what timezone i am. And then you still not know if am reall still in that timezone. Mabye am on vacation in other time zone.
Simple. Sansar need a central time that users can use as reference. Not some Magic guessing and gambling what time everybody means.
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Gindipple Yea that whole AM/PM system is stupid, it's kinda like the left hand right hand thing. Did they not think about mirrors at all!!!!!!111!
LOL
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Livio Korobase yes Richardus, is the common reference missed, not the windows watch... can be also a totally invented reference, sansar time.
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Just Me Why not simply adopt the Universal Time UTC? Every clock in the world begins there. It is used in every walk of life, in the air, on the oceans in your PC. It would be very easy to localise time in the client, and make adjustments for summer/winter clock shifting.
Central, Pacific and Eastern times suggests that every user is somewhere in the states, that is naive. Great if the internet only covered the states, but how boring would that be?
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Andrew Lawrence If the majority of staff will continue to be based in San Francisco, and will be working within normal business hours, the only real choice is how long to wait before getting everyone used to thinking in relation to Pacific time like in SL. When everything revolves around a staff in a particular time zone, who are working within normal business hours for that time zone, it's a decision that can only be delayed and not avoided. Choosing to delay the inevitable will cause more problems in the long run than the inevitability itself.
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Just Me My point being, the OP asked what is the time, wherever you maybe around the Globe, your time zone is in relation to UTC. PC's, mobile/cell phones, satellites, internet etc, are all based upon UTC + - local time.
FYI, AM/PM comes from the Latin and around long before military time based on 24 hour clocks. QUOTE[ The 12-hour clock is a time convention in which the 24 hours of the day are divided into two periods: a.m. (from the Latin, ante meridiem, meaning before midday) and p.m. (post meridiem, meaning past midday). ]UNQUOTE. All my clocks have 12 hours marked on them, not 24 :P
Linden labs have/had an office and servers in Europe for years.
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