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lighting since update...this can't be right?

Charmarley Nightfire

December 29, 2017 10:14

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 ok since the last update (massive shine increase) I've tried to work with the spotlights but the white reflection dots are simply aweful. 

When onto support, I was guided to material settings and the need to remodel items with different reflection etc since the update. Obviously this means rebuilding experiences. 

On further investigation many many items puchased from the store also cannot have a spotlight on them even with the lowest settings! (this can't be right having invested good money in the items)

Does anyone know of a fix/work around? I'm now having to unpublish everything. I have attached an image as an example. Of course my Urban Art Experience is badly effected by this and the pictures are just simple one texture cubes?

 

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  Gindipple December 30, 2017 12:03

  It's beta. You invested good money?

  So what happened to you happened to nearly everyone.

  They added a metalness map or something like that, but instead of defaulting the missing version of that map to the same thing it was before it was missing they defaulted it to some other value. Making everything specular.

  Brilliant eh?

  You can fix the things you created by added a map of your liking, and you can even fix the things you didn't create thanks to the dumping of permissions. Of course good luck with that without a UV map. I'd say you could just contact the creator of the item (but you have to be their friend) and ask them to simply update it and push it out, but well you can't do that either. 

  Maybe just start over from scratch and hope it doesn't happen again?

   

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  Andrew Lawrence December 30, 2017 12:16

  I feel your pain Charmarley.  This is an unfortunate example of why it is still in an early alpha stage, and not beta, no matter what anyone says or claims to the contrary.

  It doesn't seem like they are going to fix it, or even acknowledge the problem.  You can use a 4 x 4 solid white texture for roughness going forward, when you want something completely matte.

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  Richardus Raymaker December 30, 2017 12:18

  Good change there's mo roughness map. That you can easy fix and you not need any UV map. Just try to add in the materials editor a black roughness texture to the roughness slot (or white?)  That need to fix the problem. Glad the did not put some stupid permission system in sansar, that would be a pain.

  I think it's a black texture. cannot check it. sansar did kicked my password out again. And not have the mood to get it and put it back.

   

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  Lex December 30, 2017 22:31

  Lots of creators did not include those maps. But I could have known that leaving maps blank would give unwanted result in the future. as it is still beta and not everything is ready.

  I do know some creators who had no problem with the update because they where used to upload a object with all textures.

  You could ask the creator if they can help you out. and give you the new one with all the maps.

  The replacement for the roughness map is 4x4 white .png

  Edited by Lex December 31, 2017 23:56
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  Charmarley Nightfire January 01, 2018 23:02

  all was fine and I've been able to add the 4x4 white.png for the roughness and repaired most of my experiences....UNTIL THIS EVENING! it now fails to upload!

  Any ideas?

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  Bluebell - Helper January 02, 2018 19:26

  Ok, the replacement is not just always white, that does very much depend on the material or result you're after as roughness works from all black to all white and everything in between. In a more complicated material it needs detail to look right. Like when you have scratches or wear. 

  @ Charmarley: what doesn't upload?

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  Lex January 02, 2018 19:32

  ehm but the trouble starts when there is not a texture set in materials, if there is a detailed roughness map, you have a good item. at least as you bought it. the wear or scratches on have not changed on that update. to restore that as before the update the 4x4 white should be enough, im not talking editing.

  Edited by Lex January 02, 2018 19:36
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  Bluebell - Helper January 02, 2018 19:43

  If there was no roughness map provided/included in the first place you would not see roughness difference in the material to begin with (like dirty fingerprints, wear or damage). So if included, those would not have changed in the update as the map was uploaded with the item.

  Yes, if no roughness was uploaded the shine becomes the problem that was seen after the update. Some creators were not yet familiar with roughness and metal maps. So they did not fill that slot. And no detail in roughness appears.

  EDIT: you edited your post... my answer still might help others. Edited it too for info purposes. 

  Edited by Bluebell - Helper January 02, 2018 20:00
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  Lex January 02, 2018 20:27

  As i red it back i really have to stop typing. Its me trying to talk/type English...

  Yes i typed replacement, and indeed you can only can replace if there is a file. I meant just place the 4x4 in roughness map in object you bought and that shine after update.

  About the not loading scene you might better try discord because not all people read the forum. or support. there seem some

  sorry for the bad translation.

   

  Edited by Lex January 02, 2018 20:33
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  Bluebell - Helper January 02, 2018 20:32

  Not all of us are native English writers. Neither am I. Sometimes it takes a few posts to understand each other. Don't let that kill the fun ;)

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  Lex January 02, 2018 21:04

  Communication breakdown whoehoww,   owhoew? or ..!! oeps offtocipic...:! ;)

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  Kallah January 03, 2018 22:12

  Geez, I look like I'm wearing latex everything lately. Sansar, please, tone down the shine 0.o